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RE: Ludii vs. Zillions - RogerCooper - 01-25-2020
(01-24-2020, 09:40 AM)DennisSoemers Wrote: For Hex: which AI did you select in Ludii? In Hex, MC-GRAVE is easily the strongest AI we currently have in Ludii, much better than Alpha-Beta (Biased MCTS and probably also UCT will also beat Alpha-Beta in this game).
MC-GRAVE plays Hex better but still not well. Is MC-GRAVE better in most games or just certain types of game?
RE: Ludii vs. Zillions - DennisSoemers - 01-25-2020
Just certain types of games. MC-GRAVE will generally be better in games where the outcome of a game (or even the legality of moves) would remain exactly the same, if you were to shuffle around the order in which the full sequence of moves played in a game. Hex is an example of such a game; the order in which all moves of a full game of Hex were played does not change the end result. Games like Chess, Breakthrough, Shogi, Amazons, etc. are not such games; moves often wouldn't even be legal anymore if played in a different order!
But as I said, we're working on having Ludii be aware of its best AI for every game, and an option to have it automatically select the best one available for any particular game.
RE: Ludii vs. Zillions - RogerCooper - 05-10-2020
(01-25-2020, 09:02 PM)DennisSoemers Wrote: Just certain types of games. MC-GRAVE will generally be better in games where the outcome of a game (or even the legality of moves) would remain exactly the same, if you were to shuffle around the order in which the full sequence of moves played in a game. Hex is an example of such a game; the order in which all moves of a full game of Hex were played does not change the end result. Games like Chess, Breakthrough, Shogi, Amazons, etc. are not such games; moves often wouldn't even be legal anymore if played in a different order!
But as I said, we're working on having Ludii be aware of its best AI for every game, and an option to have it automatically select the best one available for any particular game.
RE: Ludii vs. Zillions - DennisSoemers - 05-11-2020
I don't see a new question or remark about what you quoted there?
But what I described there is in fact live already in the current latest version on the website (0.9.0). Just select "Ludii AI" in the drop-down, and it will automatically pick algorithms depending on the game it's playing.